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Trump is not a Nebuchadnezzar or a Cyrus

9/21/2016

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Over the past year, I’ve read many articles by Christians claiming that God sometimes wants His people to be ruled by wicked pagan kings like Cyrus and Nebuchadnezzar.  I’ve read over and over again how sometimes God raises up evil men in order to accomplish His will for His people.  As the November elections draw closer, there are more and more Christians claiming that God wants us to vote for an openly vile and wicked man as President just like He wanted the Jews to submit to wicked rulers like Cyrus and Nebuchadnezzar. 
 
The question which I keep asking in response is: How do you know that Cyrus and Nebuchadnezzar were wicked?  The Bible tells us that God used these men to accomplish God’s will.  Nebuchadnezzar carried the Jews into Babylon as punishment for their child sacrifice and idolatry.  Seventy years later, Cyrus issued a decree allowing the Jews to return to Jerusalem exactly as the prophet Jeremiah had prophesied.  All of this is recorded in Scripture, but what does the Bible tell us about the spiritual condition of these two Gentile kings?  I recently found the answer to that question, and I’d like to invite you to see it with me in the pages of Scripture.
 
Let’s start with Nebuchadnezzar.
 
The very first biblical reference to the spiritual condition of Nebuchadnezzar is found in II Chronicles 36:13.  While speaking of Zedekiah, one of the last kings of Judah, the Bible tells us that “he also rebelled against king Nebuchadnezzar, who had made him swear by God.”  This tells us that Nebuchadnezzar at least knew of the God of Israel, but it doesn’t tell us anything about his relationship with Him. 
 
The next reference to Nebuchadnezzar’s spiritual condition is found in Jeremiah 27 where God said:

"I have made the earth, the man and the beast that are upon the ground, by my great power and by my outstretched arm, and have given it unto whom it seemed meet unto me.  And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant."
 
This is the passage that people are referring to when they describe Nebuchadnezzar as an evil, pagan king who was still a servant of God.  However, this passage also tells us very little about the spiritual condition of Nebuchadnezzar.  Was he really a pagan king at this time?  We know that he was a Gentile king, but Gentile and pagan are not necessarily the same thing.  How can we determine whether God was addressing a pagan as His servant?

We can begin to see the answer when we notice in verse 3 of this chapter that God referred to Nebuchadnezzar as His servant during the reign of Zedekiah about the time that Zedekiah and the kings of the other nations around Judah were conspiring to rebel against Babylon. 
 
II Kings 25 tells us that Zedekiah’s rebellion occurred about the ninth year of his reign, and II Kings 24 tells us that Zedekiah’s reign did not begin until after Nebuchadnezzar had already captured all of the nobles and the skilled workers of Jerusalem.  Zedekiah was only left the poorest people of the land as his subjects.  This means that the reference to Nebuchadnezzar as God’s servant in Jeremiah 27 occurred after the events of at least the first two chapters of Daniel and perhaps not until after Daniel chapter 4.
 
When we turn to the book of Daniel, we discover a few facts about Nebuchadnezzar that seem to have escaped the notice of many modern theologians.  In the first chapter, we see that Nebuchadnezzar found Daniel and his three friends to have far greater wisdom than all of his other advisers.  At the end of chapter two, Nebuchadnezzar said that Daniel’s God was “a God of gods, and a Lord of kings,” and he appointed Daniel and his friends to some of the highest offices of the land. 
 
The third chapter contains the famous account of Nebuchadnezzar’s fiery furnace, and this is where most people point to Nebuchadnezzar as an evil pagan king.  Notice, however, how this chapter ends.  In verse 28, Nebuchadnezzar blessed the God of the Jews, and in verse 29, he issued a decree throughout the entire Babylonian Empire forbidding anyone from speaking evil of the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. 
 
This brings us to Daniel chapter four which I’m sure many of you will recognize as the chapter about Nebuchadnezzar being turned into a beast and eating grass like an ox.  But did you know that this entire chapter was actually written by Nebuchadnezzar himself?  Daniel chapter four is Nebuchadnezzar’s own testimony of how he came to be a follower of the one true God.  In this chapter, he tells how God humbled him when he was lifted up with pride, and he closes the chapter with this confession:

“Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.”
 
Clearly, by the end of Daniel four, Nebuchadnezzar was a true servant of God and not the evil pagan king that many people make him out to be.  We are not told when this change took place in Nebuchadnezzar’s reign, but if the events of Daniel four occurred within the first ten years of Nebuchadnezzar’s reign, then that would mean that Nebuchadnezzar was a believer at the time that God referred to him as His servant.
 
But what about Cyrus?  If Nebuchadnezzar doesn’t fit the bill as a wicked ruler who furthered the cause of God’s people, then surely Cyrus was such a ruler.  Well, let’s see what the Bible tells us about Cyrus.
 
Cyrus holds a unique place in Scripture.  Cyrus is one of only three men who were identified by name before their parents were even born.  In Isaiah 44:28 we read:

“[The LORD] saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.”
 
This prophecy was given about 150 years before Cyrus was born.  Between this verse and the 14th verse of chapter 45, God listed eight characteristics of this future king.


  1. He will be God’s shepherd. – vs 28
  2. God will hold his hand. – vs 1
  3. God will give him great victories. – vs 1-2
  4. God will show Cyrus that the Lord is God. – vs 3
  5. God will give him a surname. – vs 4
  6. God will raise him up in righteousness. – vs 13
  7. God will direct him in all his ways. – vs 13
  8. Others will say that God is in him. – vs 14
 
The fulfillment of this prophecy is found in the first four verses of Ezra.  There we read:
 
"Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,  Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, The LORD God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and he hath charged me to build him an house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah.  Who is there among you of all his people? his God be with him, and let him go up to Jerusalem, which is in Judah, and build the house of the LORD God of Israel, (he is the God,) which is in Jerusalem.  And whosoever remaineth in any place where he sojourneth, let the men of his place help him with silver, and with gold, and with goods, and with beasts, beside the freewill offering for the house of God that is in Jerusalem."
 
In these four verses, we find Cyrus first giving God all the glory for his victories.  Then, see that he both received and obeyed a command from God.  We also see that this command was to build a house for God in Jerusalem.  Then, we read that Cyrus prayed for God to be with His people as they returned to Jerusalem.  And most importantly, we see in this passage that Cyrus recognized the God of Israel as the one true God.  Thus, we see that when God said of Cyrus “he is my shepherd,” He was speaking of a man whom He knew would serve Him as the one true God.
 
This passage would certainly be enough to prove that Cyrus was not the evil pagan king that so many believe him to be, but this isn’t all that we find about Cyrus in Scripture.  God also informed us that, when Cyrus conquered Babylon, he asked Daniel to be his counsellor (Dan 1:21 & 6:28).  And we know that Darius found the decree of Cyrus, his father-in-law, and resumed the building of the Temple which had been halted by Cyrus’s immediate successor.  Darius repeated Cyrus’s reference to the God of Israel as the God of heaven, and he asked that the Jews pray for the life of himself and his family (Ezra 5:17-6:10).  Plus, the descendants of Cyrus include Ahasuerus who married Esther and Artaxerxes who sent Nehemiah to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem.  The Cyrus described in Scripture was a Gentile king who served and worshipped the true God and taught his children and grandchildren to do the same.  This is the kind of ruler that God referred to as His shepherd.
 
So how does Donald Trump measure up to the examples of Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus?  Can you read the passages that we’ve discussed and say, “That reminds me of Donald Trump’s relationship with the Lord?”  I sure don’t see any similarities, but maybe you see something that I missed.  If so, please feel free to share it in the comment section below.


11 Comments
James
9/24/2016 05:21:49 am

You could be correct about Cyrus...but Nebuchadnezzar, used by God to punish His wayward people, was apparently NOT a believer in God when he devastated Jerusalem, took the Jews into captivity, and declared himself a god to be bowed down to and worshiped. Only after seeing the miracle of God's protection of the 3 Jews in the fiery furnace did he acknowledge the supremacy of God. And after his experience as an animal, he gave glory to God.
Therefore the comparison of Trump to Cyrus is probably incorrect, but the comparison to Nebuchadnezzar could be accurate...

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Jean
10/18/2016 08:05:26 am

In the days before Jesus there were only the Jews who followed Gods commands given by God thru Moses,and the gentile nations that commanded the Jews to avoid because of their idols and unclean practices. Salvation was given to the Jews only. it wasn't until Jesus that salvation came to others. That aside,pharaoh believed himself to be God and worshiped many pagan gods yet was used by god. The Persian rulers may have acknowledged israels God but they acknowledged many gods. God created everything and everyone. His word said he creates good and evil and all is subject to his will.

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Bill Fortenberry
10/18/2016 09:56:42 am

I'm not aware of any passage of Scripture which teaches that salvation was only given to the Jews prior to the death of Christ.

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Steve B
1/6/2020 08:32:42 am

Thank You!

JT
1/29/2017 03:59:22 pm

According to Plutarch the historian, Cyrus was an evil ruthless king. He was also an idol worshipper and his quest for the throne led him to do rituals to the goddess Athena. Yet because of his upbringing, he was open minded about religious freedom which is why he allowed the Hebrews to return to Judah and build their temple. Of the kings of Judah and Israel, 31 out of 42 had "done evil in the sight of the Lord". Yet these were kings anointed for this post. God can use evil kings to achieve his puposes.

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Mesay
7/16/2017 12:31:15 am

It surprises me to see Christians who think the Obama Administration is a proChristian (see the comments above). Liberal leftists we know worship satan and have been destroying any heritage of Christianity and the values of the founding fathers that America stood on

Regarding Trump - Nebuchadnezzar comparison, I accept Trump or any ruler of nations for that matter is appointed by God Himself ( see Dan 4:17)

Bottomline, Nebuchadnezzar knew God later (San 4:37). We all did. We were jentiles by birth.

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Edward
10/2/2018 02:51:50 pm

Based on your statement that "I accept Trump or any ruler of nations for that matter is appointed by God Himself ( see Dan 4:17)" does that also apply to Obama?

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Joyce Cole
12/5/2019 08:52:19 am

RE: "Liberal leftists we know worship satan and have been destroying any heritage of Christianity and the values of the founding fathers that America stood on"

Thou shall not take the name of God in vain. To call oneself a Christian and then make a statement like the one above, is taking God's name in vain. It is wearing the identity of the Son of God, who in fact is God, in a manner that misrepresents Who God IS and what He Wills for us.

God created life. He also gave free will (choice) to His beloved human's into whom He breathed His own breath. I am a Democrat, because the so-called "Liberal leftists" do so much more as far as loving and caring for their fellow humans, regardless of race, gender, nationality, etc. I'm a Democrate, because they do more toward welcoming strangers, as God told us to do.

I do not believe in abortion, because I believe life begins at conception. I have never had (and never will have) an abortion. I do not believe in same sex marriage. I have never (and will never) marry a person of the same gender as me.

I am thankful to live in a nation where we still have freedom of choice. I am thankful that ours is not a nation that forces anyone to have an abortion or to marry someone of the same gender. I am also thankful for God's wisdom when He gave humankind free will and a destiny to stand before Him to answer for each of our choices. God knew what He was doing when He gave free will (i.e. freedom of choice).

Regardless of political affiliation, God Willed that His people (regardless of who they are) be about His business. God was also clear as to what His business is. We are to love God and love our fellow man.

While so many Christians are out trying to change the laws of man rather than living the Laws of God, then our nation is going to continue to go down hill.

Our country is falling apart, because God-fearing people are failing to do the job God gave to them. Too many evangelicals are too busy and too drained from being too focused on man's ways and man's laws.

Turn your eyes upon Jesus. Get refocused and begin to see into the eyes of God.

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Steve B.
1/6/2020 08:34:52 am

You accept Trump as appointed by God. Did you accept Obama as appointed by God?

I have friends who use your arguments supporting Trump, but deny the same argument regarding Obama.

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Brian Sutherland link
10/12/2018 07:15:03 am

The parallel between Trump and King Nebuchadnezzar is that prior to Nebuchadnezzar's being greatly humbled, he was a man full of pride, just as Trump is now.

According to the Word of the Lord, pride comes before a fall and we are to judge nothing before the time.

Trump's story is not over, as he too will be greatly humbled by Almighty God; the question is how will Trump respond to his being greatly humbled?

As for those who hail Trump as some Cyrus type; one parallel is that the Lord is using Trump to help His children but said help is not at all what Christian Trump supporters believe it to be.

The Lord has given the many Christians in America a man after their own heart, a man that is arrogant, boastful, conceited, dishonorable, indignant, prideful, self-righteous, these hearts that are quick to excuse one another while accusing the ungodly and wicked (Obama too was a man after American's own heart).

As to how my God is using Trump to help Christians, the Lord is drawing Christians out on the Trump band wagon in order to unmask all that is not Christ in them in the hope that they see as heaven sees them, miserable, naked, and wretched but will we humble ourselves before the mighty hand of God?

In closing, from this point moving forward, it is of the utmost importance for all Christians to return to their first love and to come into an ever increasing intimate bridal type relationship with the Christ the Groom; to the degree that we come short in this is to the degree that we will face hard things when antichrist come.

Kind regards
young brian :)

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David
2/16/2019 09:44:46 am

All I know is that God can, and does, use leaders to serve his purpose and fulfill his will, as scripture tells us. He appoints national leaders as judgment and/or reward depending on the collective will of the people. Saying or implying that he cannot use Trump for his will is both foolhardy and shows an overall ignorance of OT History. Trying to shove Trump into a preconceived notion is probably unwise as he has shown characteristics of both Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus. Trump is a man, subject to all the ills, temptations, and sins that befall mankind as is all of us. I personally believe that God has raised up Donald Trump for a time such as this and can use him, as imperfect as he is, to expose the works of darkness and show how far we have fallen collectively as a nation.

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