According to Genesis 11, Abraham was born approximately 250 years after the flood. However, the accounts which are recorded in chapters 10 through 25 of the book of Genesis seem to describe a region that is heavily populated. There are dozens of cities or nations mentioned by name in these accounts, and many of them are described as having their own cultures, governments and infrastructures. I have had several skeptics point out to me that it is not possible for a population to increase from just 8 individuals to a size large enough to support so many separate cultures. In fact, at the current average growth rate of 1.14%, there would only have been 136 people on earth at the time that Abraham was born. That’s certainly not enough to account for all the cities mentioned in these chapters of Genesis, and this is often cited as evidence against the biblical account. The solution to this contradiction involves two simple observations of the record given in the book of Genesis. First, the generations close to the flood had longer lifespans than we do today. And second, these generations had higher birth rates than we do today. When we combine these two observations, we can easily see the possibility that the population at the time of Abraham would be significantly higher than just 136 individuals, but the Bible actually gives us enough information to make some very reasonable estimates of just how much larger. Longer Life Spans
Genesis 9:28 tells us that Noah lived 350 years after the flood, so he was still alive at the time of Abraham's sojourn in Egypt (Abraham was still under 100 at that time - Genesis 21:5). According to Genesis 11, Shem lived 502 years after the flood. In fact, all the firstborn sons from Shem to Abraham were still alive at the time of Abraham's birth. This statement is limited to the firstborn only because they are the only ones for whom the Bible gives us the length of their lives. It is therefore not improbable to conclude that most of the other sons enjoyed similar lifespans, nor is there any reason to assume that this length of life was limited to the generations of Shem. Japheth, Ham, and their sons most likely were alive at the time of Abraham as well. Now, of course, most skeptics claim that the long life spans recorded in Genesis are fictitious, but that claim does not take into account the fact that these life spans correspond to an exponential decay curve that would be very difficult to fabricate. This fact has been documented in several papers, but an excellent overview of it can be found on Dr. J. Wile’s blog post “Patriarch Age and Genetics.” Higher Birth Rate There are 70 descendents of Japheth, Shem, and Ham mentioned by name in Genesis 10. Arphaxad and Salah each have only one of their sons mentioned, but we know from Genesis 11 that they each bore at least two giving us a minimum listing of 72 sons in Genesis 10. There are 14 fathers listed in this chapter which would give us an average of 5.14 sons per father. If we assume 1:1 ratio between sons and daughters, then this would give us an average of 10.28 children per father. This may seem a bit excessive until we consider that Abraham, who did not begin fathering children until he was 100 years old, is recorded as having at least 8 sons (Genesis 25:1-6). Putting it all Together There are 9 generations listed for the line of Shem in Genesis 11. If we assume that there were no deaths within the first 250 years, and if we assume that each man fathered 5 sons, then we can calculate the size of Shem’s family by 5 times itself 9 times. This gives us a total of 1,953,125 male descendents of Shem at the time of Abraham. If we do the same for Japheth and Ham, we arrive at 5,859,375 males. Then, if we assume a 1;1 male to female ratio, we arrive at a world population estimate of 11,718,750 people at the time of Abraham. 11 million people would be more than enough to account for the heavy population which is apparent in the Genesis account.
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6/1/2014 10:12:32 am
Or you could look at the sixth day creation,and get rid of all the supposition. Adam and eve is not a recap of the first,the sixth day man is the ethnos,so you can put away all noahs children being the progenitors of the races.just let God's word speak for itself.
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Tim
3/10/2017 06:55:50 pm
Huh? Can you string together some more words? If you want people to understand your point of view, you can't just state your own jargon or hidden knowledge to justify your position.
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Gary
1/29/2018 02:45:55 pm
But if you wish to let the bible speak for itself, as you yourself suggest, then the point of the matter is that Noah's children are in fact the progenitors of the races. This means that the mathematics worked out by the author of this site are reasonable. I wouldn't say that his numbers are exactly correct, but I would say they are reasonable. His basis for being so convincing is that his explanation is based on Scripture.
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Barcus
3/30/2022 01:57:33 am
Abraham was 86 when he began fathering and had 9 sons, not 8. Ishmael.
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Janet Ellis
10/12/2015 12:52:10 pm
I found this a very helpful and logical explanation to all the cities and governments that I just read about in Gen 14. Thanks. TGBTG (to God Be the Glory)
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Ramzan Muhammad
2/20/2020 01:51:49 pm
Nothing can be more reasonable then this one I think.
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Ray
9/10/2018 07:17:16 am
Well done. We often read of archaeologists finding "ancient" cities arond the world that are reported to be thousands of years old. But of course if the world population grew rapidly so did building the cities. An interesting book is by Thor Heyerdahl "Early man and the ocean" which explains how civilization spread via rivers and the sea nullifying many assumed "facts" (eg that it took thousands of years for Asians to cross the Bering straight during the "ice age". )
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David
1/10/2020 04:36:57 pm
Flood 2370 bce
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Daniel
11/1/2021 09:32:22 am
I came to my own conclusion using a very conservative method to estimate global population at the time of Abraham. If we assume that Earth was created at 4000 BC and that the flood happened 1656 years after creation, then that would put it at 2344 BC. Assuming Abraham was born around 2000 BC as most scholars suggest, this gives 344 years to increase population growth.
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Paul
2/2/2022 01:14:11 pm
This is totally farcical. There is no way that the population at the time would be in the millions let alone tens of millions in such a short time. Every assumption is in the extreme. No deaths, lives beyond a real life span etc.
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Hassim
10/5/2023 09:21:26 pm
“Done nothing of note before being chosen” would describe 99% of “chosen” Bible characters. Jesus apostles? Fishermen. David? Young lad herding sheep. Paul? Persecuted Christians. Sons of the prophets? One was nipper of figs when chosen. Most of them of poor and insignificant origins…Did you not read 1Cor1:27,28 “God chose the foolish things of the world to put the wise men to shame;… 28 and God chose the insignificant things of the world and the things looked down on, the things that are not, to bring to nothing the things that are.”
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John
5/10/2023 04:40:01 am
I beg to differ.
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Pep
7/3/2023 09:27:33 am
Taking into consideration the author’s estimation of 11 million people during the time of Abraham, another persons comment making it around 9 million people, taking into consideration a contradictory comment to the aforementioned numbers… in my humble estimation I would say 5,000,000 to 10,000,000 people on the earth during Abrahams time. To further break it down, when you look at cities in the United States cities of 50,000 people who are self governing cities of 150,000 people who are self governing and other cities or towns consist of 10,000 or 20,000 people that are self governing and self-sustaining, makes it also amazing to think that the Bible is very accurate, makes sense and the miraculous power of just reading the word of God without even understanding everything is intriguing. May God be glorified. pep
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Mark Whitby
8/26/2023 03:23:22 pm
Family Origin and Early History. Abraham was the tenth generation from Noah through Shem and was born 352 years after the Deluge, in 2018 B.C.E. Although listed first among the three sons of Terah, at Genesis 11:26, Abraham was not the firstborn. The Scriptures show that Terah was 70 years old when his first son was born, and that Abraham was born 60 years later when his father Terah was 130 years old. (Ge 11:32; 12:4) Evidently Abraham is listed first among his father’s sons because of his outstanding faithfulness and prominence in the Scriptures, a practice that is followed in the case of several other outstanding men of faith such as Shem and Isaac.—Ge 5:32; 11:10; 1Ch 1:28
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